What to do if your SPF is off gassing.

I wish I had an easy answer for everyone who has been in contact with me about a SPF horror story.

Nothing about having SPF that  is off gassing is easy.  It is overwhelming to say the least to realize your largest asset and your health are in limbo.  It is very worse when people tell you SPF is safe and you are ‘just sensitive.’

If you are sick from your home take action:

Recommendations from our personal and others experience are as follows:

-Contact the Installer and SPF company.

-Contact an Industrial Hygienist with experience in SPF or isocyanates.

-Get your own IAQ and SPF chamber tests

-Do NOT allow any removal of foam unless done in a controlled fashion (the dust is a dermal and respiratory sensitizers )

-consider legal help, so far the SPF companies only do so much then you are on your own.

-Be cautious of advice from industry specialists as most will defend SPF and erroneously declare that the off gassing is only a “nuisance” odor.

-Keep all info you send and the info sent from the SPF company organized and easy to access.

-Agree or disagree only in writing.

For more info, contact me at foamproblem@gmail.com

 

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Multiple Chemical Sensitivities and SPF – It just keeps getting worse even after the SPF is gone.

One of the most common  complaint from people who have lived in an SPF home is the sensitivities they experience to other things in their environment even after being removed from the SPF home. This is also known as Multiple Chemical Sensitivities (MCS) or Toxicant Induced Loss of Tolerance (TILT)[ see Dr Claudia Miller]

Families that have removed or moved away from their SPF home still feel like they are being attacked from the failed or toxic foam as their health continues to be negatively affected.

To better illustrate some of this, below are some stories from failed/toxic SPF families;

A family moved out of their home after it was determined that the SPF in the home was causing them to feel ill.  After removing the SPF, the family still experienced being ill.  The removal of the foam did not remove the vapors that penetrated the other building materials or the furniture, clothing and other porous materials. It is also possible that the removal also created a lot of dangerous dust which is a sensitizer via dermal and respiratory as seen in Spray Foam Safety here which undoubtedly causes more concern for long term chronic dust exposure to any occupants)  (Also found in SPF dust is large amounts of carcinogenic flame retardants – don’t worry about your foam couch if you have a house filled with SPF – your family will be poisoned from the SPF, not the tiny couch). The family  moved into a rental home, but noticed many things in the rental home continue to illicit ill feelings.  It is then determined the SPF has caused the family members to be sensitized to a wide range of chemicals and cross chemicals due to the exposure to the toxic SPF.

Another family moved out of their home and under the care of many doctors it was determined the male of the home was getting sick at work because he continued to wear some clothing that was in the original SPF home. He had become so sensitive to the chemicals that any amount present caused symptoms.

A fellow in NY had an addition done to his multi million dollar home and has left it abandoned and moved to another home after becoming ill from his failed foam.  One day his wife returned to the home to get a watch box from the safe in a totally different part of the house from the foam.  She brought the tiny watch box to the new home and upon entering the bathroom hours later the husband who had no idea about the watch being in the house described the distinct smell and symptoms he noticed as soon as he entered the bathroom.

These super sensitivities are too common among us who have lived with or been exposed to SPF.

Anyone who knows about MCS/TILT understands this is typically a downward cycle that continues to negatively impact our lives in so many ways.

I am empathetic to all of us who are dealing with this as I know it has hurt many of us, even after the SPF is supposedly removed.

For more info on MCS/TILT please visit Dr Claudia Miller website here

 

Indoor air testing for homes with spray foam

I am blown away by the massive response I have received from homeowners who want their home air and foam tested.

It is down right scary how many folks with spray foam are having smell and health issues.

If you already do IAQ sampling and are interested in sampling SPF homes, please contact me at foamproblem@gmail.com

I have families in need of testing all over the US and Canada.

Needed: Research on Spray Foam Insulation – Real Life Application and Safety Data

Dear Silent Spring, Mom’s Rising, Green Science Policy and CPSC

Thank you for all your research on flame retardants and couches and car seats.

Couches and car seats need to be as non toxic and safe as possible without a doubt, but what about a much larger part of a home like its insulation.

Technically, spray foam insulation is sandwiched between sheathing and drywall, but don’t be fooled it still can off gas and pollute your homes’ air with plenty o’ chemicals like flame retardants.

In the attic, SPF is often left visible and can be dumped, cracked, and broken – all resulting in more chemicals exposed which means more junk in your air.

Please, Please , Please look into spray foam insulation and its toxic soup of chemical ingredients / flame retardants.

I run the blog sprayfoamdangers.com and am contacted daily from people unable to live in their homes due to the off gassing of this “inert, green” product.

Where is the data or research that can truly show SPF is safe in residential use.  Where is the data showing the long term safety?

Lots of data is being captured from homes that show it is not safe, perhaps this needs more attention.

I have many pages of chamber and air tests of our home with spf in it, all reports deem the home too contaminated to live safely in.
I am happy to share our results; other homes also show many similarities and trends in the chemical off gassing.

The flame retardant, Tris was found in the samples of our home and other spf homes with Demilec and other brands.

AQS Environmental  Lab ( Green Guard Certification Lab, Founder – Marilyn Black) did our testing and Robert Miller of Argus is our Industrial Hygienist – so credibility of the testing is far from being in question.

More people need to be made aware that this building product carries serious potential side effects.
From what I have learned, most everyone who specs SPF is doing so because the ‘green’ leaders and governing bodies are pushing it.
It is a high R value product, but what good is that if it causes harm?

Please consider more research or regulation of spray foam insulation.

Please consider signing my petition: “EPA: Require full disclosure of toxic chemicals used in spray foam insulation” on Change.org.

It’s important. Will you sign it too? Here’s the link:

Thanks!

WFTV Channel 9 News Exposes More Toxic Spray Foam Homes.

Todd Ulrich of WFTV aired another news story on toxic spray foam homes last night.

WFTV did not state the brand of SPF used last night, but most brands of SPF have had complaints with Demilec having the most complaints and legal suits filed thus far.

In response to WFTV’s story the American Chemistry Council issued a statement :

…“Spray foam can provide enormous benefits to homeowners, especially in places like Florida where climate control and moisture concerns are significant. Spray foam is a highly effective insulation material and has a unique ability to fill the gaps that can be difficult to seal and allow air to escape. Using spray foam to seal air leaks can help manage moisture and humidity in a building. By controlling moisture, spray foam can limit one of the key variables that can lead to mold and mildew growth.

Wow, that response sounds like it came right out of the sales manual for SPF marketing.

The truth about SPF is …the effectiveness of SPF is good, no one ever disputed that it is not a great insulator. Asbestos was good too.

As for reducing mold and mildew, it does not stop growth of mold – in fact a lot of issues are coming to the surface that homes are filled with mold under the SPF on roof decks due to leaks that go unnoticed.  Also, some homes become too tight from SPF (yes, because it is an effective insulator, but at what cost to your health???) and the HVAC may not have any fresh air intake or proper ventilation thereby adding to moisture problems in the home.

SPF  has flame retardants that become air borne and attach to dust in the home.

“Halogenated fire retardants are becoming widespread in the environment. Halogenated fire retardants (HFRs) can migrate out of furniture foam, electronics, fabric and other consumer products as well as foam insulation so humans are exposed to a “cocktail” of such toxins. Levels of HFRs are increasing in household dust, human blood and breast milk, and wild animals. The chemicals are widely distributed in the outdoor environment with the highest concentrations in the Arctic and marine mammals. Certain classes of brominated fire retardants, the polybrominated diphenyl ethers, have been banned for most applications, but other halogenated chemicals have replaces them.”

From  http://www.greensciencepolicy.org/healthy-buildings

Chlorinated Tris is banned from kids sleepwear in 1979, but it is allowed in our couches and insulation – WTH!

SPF chemicals migrate into all building material during install, especially so if no ventilation of the home during install (did you installer have fans going and windows open?).

SPF contains chemicals that sensitize people/animals and can cause chronic sensitivity to all products containing like chemicals.  Think of living in a bubble because everything from your car AC to entering IKEA make you sick.  SPF is not worth that is it?

SPF produces lethal gases during a fire – the typical response time for fire fighters fighting a foam house is longer because of the protective gear needed.

SPF has so many variables that the ONLY way to get it 100% correct is in a controlled setting like a lab, not on your driveway.

If you SPF seems ok today and not presenting any symptoms or smells, wait for 6 – 7 years then check in again.  More and more homeowners are finding their SPF to start off gassing after 6-7 years.  Why is unknown but perhaps its breaking down due to conditions of being heated/cooled on the underside of the roof deck or wall cavities.

Homeowners that do not know if they have SPF, look in your attic or crawl space. Crawl spaces with SPF are common unfortunately  mold and off gassing also can happen in these homes – but it is hard to pin point because it is in the crawl space.

If you have any concerns about your spray foam insulation, please contact me at foamproblem@gmail.com

Explain what your concern is, any symptoms you experience in the home/space, type of SPF, When installed and what the SPF looks like. can help you test your foam and air.

Your air and foam can be tested for elevated chemicals.

 

Are you worried about your spray foam insulation?

If you are concerned that your home spray foam insulation is making you feel sick or has an odor,  is crusty or too soft or irritates your eyes, throat, chest, head or gives you body aches, or are coughing while in your home, it is time to get an inspection.

Not all foam looks bad to be bad.

If you feel sick in your home and you have spray foam insulation, please contact us at foamproblem (at) gmail.com

We can provide you with referrals in your area that understand SPF.

Bette to know if your home is a bath of SPF off gassing before more damage is done.

 

 

Dallas Law Firm ClineSmith Wooten Smith Helping SPF Homeowners in US&Canada.

Clinesmith Wooten Smith: 1-855-898-7800 (Toll Free)

http://www.clinesmithwootensmith.com/spray-foam/

Injuries From Exposure to Spray Polyurethane Foam
Prolonged or high-dose exposure to the toxins found in SPF, including isocyanates, may result in a myriad of health problems. Severe breathing problems and skin reactions have been reported, as well as neurological symptoms such as memory loss. SPF has been found to cause respiratory illness, asthma, lung damage, and even respiratory sensitization.

Sensitization is an allergic reaction where an individual becomes more responsive to chemical exposure at progressively lower concentrations, even below concentrations considered safe for most people. A hyper-reactive response, such as an asthma attack, to even minimal concentration, may develop in sensitized individuals and can be life-threatening. Lung damage and sensitization may be permanent. Thus, those who become sensitized may be unable to reside in their homes or even come into contact with products or materials that contain polymeric isocyanates without having a severe reaction. Removal of SPF may provide little relief. Removal or remediation has in some cases intensified the original harmful affects of the spray foam insulation.

Contact Us  1-855-898-7800 (Toll Free)
If you have spray foam insulation in your home and you, or someone you know has experienced any of the above symptoms, contact our law firm for an immediate free consultation. We have extensive experience in pursuing toxic and mass tort claims across the country and we are working closely with other experienced attorneys practicing nation wide to help those impacted by the harmful affects of toxic exposure to spray foam insulation. We are pursing claims on behalf of clients throughout the United States and we look forward to speaking with you about your legal rights.  1-855-898-7800 (Toll Free)

Do You Have Spray Foam?

Itchy, burning irritated eyes, headache, chest pain, sore throat, running nose, increased mucus in head/throat, breathing problems, cough, bronchitis, skin rash are some of the common complaints from families living in a home with spray foam insulation.

Does your home have a sweet almost chemical like smell that intensifies in the heat (attic on a hot day).  Some foams are fishy smelling.  Spray foam is NOT suppose to have an odor so if it does you may need to start asking questions.

Do your symptoms go away if you leave your home for awhile?  If so – you may have a problem with your foam.

Looking at your foam can sometimes help determine a problem because of physical characteristics, but lots of problem foam homes have ‘ok’ looking foam.  Well, ‘ok’ until tested in a chamber to see the gross amount of chemicals that ooze out at low temps of only 73 degrees.

Is your foam sticky, soft and wet or dry and flaky?  Is it a cream color or yellow/orange?  Is the color consistent or marbled?

Do you smell areas more than other areas?  try cutting a mason jar sized piece out and put it in a mason jar, close it up for a day then smell it.  Is it potent or no odor?  If the whiff test makes your nose cringe, you very well may have a problem.

Did the installer ventilate your home while installing?  Did the put a warning sign on your property to stay out for 24-48hr post spray (and during spray)?

If you think your foam is off gassing (yes, that means if it has a smell and sometimes the smell can minimal, but if you have symptoms as stated above with or without the smell) it is best to act sooner than later.  We do not know the long term affects from SPF that is not inert.  However it is well publicized that the chemical that make up SPF are all very dangerous and many are classified as carcinogens.  So its better safe than sorry to have your SPF looked at and you indoor air to be tested if you even suspect you may have something wrong with your spray foam.

Contact me at foamproblem@gmail.com or leave a message on this blog.

 

 

 

 

 

 

No End in Sight for Spray Foam Problems

Goodness.  Over the past two weeks I have been contacted by 5 families living in hotels or rentals because they feel sick inside their spray foamed homes.

As an update: Lawsuits are being filed from three (at least) different firms against manufactures such as Demilec, Icynene and Bayer (to name the top few).

Some families are being paid small amounts compared to what they have lost and have to sign all future rights away.

My roster of foam families keeps growing yet foam companies still have the nerve to deny any issues.

Here is the topper…Dave Lall told me during our phone conversation that it is the installers fault; he even used an analogy of installers cutting corners and hoping not to get caught in order to save money with a guy at a bar taking the last drink his friends bought him before driving drunk home and hoping not to get caught.

Classy Dave, nice work for a CEO.

Also, It is somewhat satisfying to hear that my little blog sends your lawyers to court looking to find ways to get my communications with others.  Perhaps you should spend the time and money on helping people forced out of their homes because they used your product instead of in court asking for my emails!

 

 

 

 

I suppose this is how it works.